tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post1426662634296635793..comments2024-03-21T03:45:48.679-05:00Comments on Enter the Rainbow: Feeling Kind of Broken HeartedAndy B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05944614269873479581noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-28522278576699788872010-02-17T14:26:03.842-06:002010-02-17T14:26:03.842-06:00I'm a little late to the discussion but I feel...I'm a little late to the discussion but I feel your pain. I was recently trying to lead some change in our church and really thought God was guiding us (I had good input from a lot of folks)but to no avail. The fear of change can be so overwhelming for some it does, as you sadi, sort of blind them to what God really wants and/or what is really possible. Sadly, we ended up doing nothing. The whole process zapped my energy and hope. As Diana said, we miss you. You know God is here, keep walking with him.Dave in NKCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-83797539734994078472010-02-10T09:03:28.889-06:002010-02-10T09:03:28.889-06:00No offense to any anonymous posters who might be p...No offense to any anonymous posters who might be part of a group that has felt targeted, but you took that 1% statement out of context. It was in reference to the ministry in question, not to anyone's level of commitment to any other ministries. And what is the proper expression of appreciation for all that you do, anyways? Is it letting your posse hold a borderline unhealthy ministry hostage with your gifts and your service? Those were the last things I expected to become weapons in this situation.<br /><br />I think Andy's point was that if you love this ONE ministry as much as you say you do, you'd trust the leadership to make changes that will ensure it remains healthy and thriving. What, otherwise, is the point of having leaders?<br /><br />It's neither a privilege ("a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most") nor a due ("something that is due, owed, or naturally belongs to someone") for you to be a part of the ministry in question. It exists because you decide it exists. You ARE the ministry.<br /><br />However, if you're going to hold that ministry hostage by your money or your involvement in other ministries, then you are no longer the ministry, but rather, you are its antagonist. And THAT is what is so sad in this situation.<br /><br />And all of this for 2.5 hours every other Sunday morning? Your ministers and countless lay leaders are there for 6-7 hours every Sunday morning doing everything they can to ensure the congregation and its ministries are nourished... vital... healthy.<br /><br />If you're going to ask those leaders for positive change, you better be ready for them to ask you, THE MINISTRY, for a little help and maybe, God forbid, a little extra time.<br /><br />I am beyond heartbroken by this. I am downright somber. It makes me wish I were completely oblivious.Kory Wilcoxhttp://www.korywilcox.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-23911236806758981652010-02-06T16:19:14.052-06:002010-02-06T16:19:14.052-06:00I am really sad about what has happened in this si...I am really sad about what has happened in this situation. . . by the wounded feelings on both sides, by the fact that both sides seem to have felt unheard and disrespected. Change and change management are difficult. I'm prayin'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-21174126324341219732010-02-05T08:49:14.227-06:002010-02-05T08:49:14.227-06:00Sorry about your broken heart, Andy. There are ma...Sorry about your broken heart, Andy. There are many more broken hearts than you may know because of how we are labeled as a group. Maybe we'll be healed, maybe not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-23257684015154078282010-02-04T15:04:28.459-06:002010-02-04T15:04:28.459-06:00Andy -
I am a long time member of your congregatio...Andy -<br />I am a long time member of your congregation and just read this post. My heart breaks. You have brought a new life and passion to this church that we have lacked for many years. You bring joy to so many so often. Do not be discouraged. You are loved and much appreciated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-44731836958904939232010-02-04T09:54:12.684-06:002010-02-04T09:54:12.684-06:00I'm a part of the self-centered, cliquish grou...I'm a part of the self-centered, cliquish group. I,personally, see our group as very involved in the life of the church as huge contributors in service, special needs requests, not to mention financial support. Our committent per month, over and above the group we're in, is much more than 1%. "We(whoever that is)" didn't give us a chance to discuss the new plans before implementation. "We" made the plans and expected our group to comply wholeheartedly. Personally, I am feeling unappreciated on one level, but still an important part of the overall church family. I'm writing this to get it off my chest. Thanks for reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-75854237551678319532010-02-01T21:38:32.714-06:002010-02-01T21:38:32.714-06:00Change sometimes means that good hearted people di...Change sometimes means that good hearted people disagree and then some of them move on. We had some tough decisions to make at Grace 5 years ago. So we made several changes. Over twenty people left. It was not easy. It was painful. Now I can say, it made us a much healthier church. Prayers for you as you continue to be fruitful and effective ;0) Peace, JeremyJeremy V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06591390773062106149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-38636743941835346842010-01-31T10:26:32.808-06:002010-01-31T10:26:32.808-06:00Andy,
Your job is to deliver the information. Th...Andy,<br /><br />Your job is to deliver the information. That does not mean you get to see the positive affects. Remember Moses? You plant the seeds and provide some cultivation. The rest is up to us as receipents of the message. You are not accountable for what we do, or don't do, with the info. And for some of us, it takes a long time for the message to sink in. By that time you could be blessing another congregation, and never know that "finally, she got it"!<br />You just keep doing what you know is your calling and trust that God will see to what is out of your control.<br /><br />By the way, we miss you!<br />DianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-60895022919926803112010-01-30T21:32:00.526-06:002010-01-30T21:32:00.526-06:00Nothing more to say than I stand with you in praye...Nothing more to say than I stand with you in prayer for God's Spirit to move, for the winds of change to blow.Andy B.http://unknowntraveler.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-41877786979317667642010-01-30T10:34:36.218-06:002010-01-30T10:34:36.218-06:00Sorry for the pain Andy. I know that, in the end, ...Sorry for the pain Andy. I know that, in the end, this situation will help you grow in ministry and maturity.. stuff like this pushes us like nothing else.<br /><br />Blessings, Bobkc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-88707056216298137672010-01-30T06:11:57.865-06:002010-01-30T06:11:57.865-06:00It sounds like people don't quite believe that...It sounds like people don't quite believe that ten year old from the previous post.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122361539939744451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-58176217479660442642010-01-29T18:25:55.757-06:002010-01-29T18:25:55.757-06:00Sounds like the group was told of the changes, and...Sounds like the group was told of the changes, and not part of the process of how to change. Even the two people who complained, it sounds like they were not given an opportunity to work together to create change that would work. Is this accurate? I will say a prayer for all of you. I sense your deep pain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com