tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post7607127394378722766..comments2024-03-21T03:45:48.679-05:00Comments on Enter the Rainbow: DiscipleshipAndy B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05944614269873479581noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-69837220849543222332007-09-10T17:35:00.000-05:002007-09-10T17:35:00.000-05:00I understand discipleship to include:going on to p...I understand discipleship to include:<BR/>going on to perfection<BR/>taking on the mind that was in Christ<BR/>growing in grace<BR/>increasing in love of God and neighbor<BR/><BR/>I would suggest that discipleship understood this way may be synonymous with the "process" of salvation. A Wesleyan perspective invites us to encourage folks along the "Way of Salvation". We could call this “Way” discipleship. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps what is being drawn out here is the distinctions between justification and sanctification and our understanding of both as instantaneous event and ongoing process?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps as an aside, I would like to explore the position: “salvation, which precedes discipleship both temporally and spiritually.” <BR/><BR/>Huh?<BR/><BR/>I again appeal to the Wesleyan “Way of Salvation”. To say we have achieved (perhaps a poor word choice…”been granted” sound better?) salvation apart from our acceptance or awareness or commitment or expression of faith sounds predestinarian. Before we begin the journey we have already arrived? I have a similar problem with the position concerning our spiritual maturity. To grow in maturity is to grow in sanctification (the culminating effect being salvation, not vice versa).<BR/><BR/>Have I grossly misrepresented your position? I humbly seek correction and/or clarification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-90581995529597567722007-09-07T14:24:00.000-05:002007-09-07T14:24:00.000-05:00I hear you, Scott.I do not mean to imply that salv...I hear you, Scott.<BR/>I do not mean to imply that salvation and discipleship are completely divorced from one another, just that they are not one in the same thing.Andy B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05944614269873479581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-43145684951558560392007-09-07T13:41:00.000-05:002007-09-07T13:41:00.000-05:00In Methodism salvation would include discipleship....In Methodism salvation would include discipleship. Salvation is from birth through death and beyond. It seems you are using the word salvation to mean conversion (or "saved" as the Baptists would say.) Conversion preceeds discipleship. But discipleship is part of our salvation. <BR/><BR/>I could be completely wrong. <BR/><BR/>ScottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com