tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post1847922512864728500..comments2024-03-21T03:45:48.679-05:00Comments on Enter the Rainbow: Time for the UMC to Change: For the sake of the missionAndy B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05944614269873479581noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-15876496286969808552012-01-21T23:54:40.265-06:002012-01-21T23:54:40.265-06:00sondHelen said - My Uncle was homesexual born &quo...sondHelen said - My Uncle was homesexual born "back"<br />in the 20's. I loved him . He was a taLented artist and <br />could play the piano with not even a lesson !! he had one boyfriend early in life but never married, but I've <br />had trouble with that idea. I thought there was a <br />scripture in the Old Testament that stated a man <br />was not suppose to lay with a man and a woman was<br />not suppose to lay with a woman. AM I wrong? I know<br />God Is the ULTIMATE JUDGE NOT ME .......please clear<br />up this matter for me. Thank you !!Kay Neavlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05240367852169034762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-81995092641721074072011-11-22T16:24:04.482-06:002011-11-22T16:24:04.482-06:00There is no doubt that the UMC is divided on this ...There is no doubt that the UMC is divided on this matter. I am of the opinion that it will ultimately lead to a split in our church simply because the two beliefs are in opposition. It is impossible for us to be about our mission when we are having to invest 4 decades in keeping the church faithful to Scripture. The UMC will not likely change the position now in the BoD, but those who disagree with it will continue to commit acts of anarchy and find ways around the will of General Conference. It is tiring and heart breaking. I see no resolution any time soon.iptl4evrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07150364031017460538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-79174958078641190122011-11-18T08:40:54.000-06:002011-11-18T08:40:54.000-06:00I believe all Christians must use cultural relevan...I believe all Christians must use cultural relevance as way to introduce lost people to the truth of Jesus Christ. We should meet people where they are in life, but we should not camp out there. Making disciples means teaching the disciplines of life that bring people into spiritual relevance with Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Our culture is not eternal, our God is. Through study of scripture and the leading of the Holy Spirit, we should discern God's position on any issue and teach it without wavering, although teaching it in a loving manner as Christ did. Paul taught on Mars Hill about worship of other gods in a way that showed the overall love of Christ and those listening were drawn to the truth. That should be our model.Kyle Bridgmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794403792411961360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-78755376332250423992011-11-17T18:33:19.529-06:002011-11-17T18:33:19.529-06:00I can appreciate your position, but what good is a...I can appreciate your position, but what good is a religion that tosses aside beliefs to accomplish their mission. If we believe something is wrong it doesn't give us license to be hateful but we certainly ought not condone sinful actions.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122361539939744451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-15417869376392494062011-11-17T14:13:19.910-06:002011-11-17T14:13:19.910-06:00YIPEE. Great post. I love so many things about thi...YIPEE. Great post. I love so many things about this. Thankfully, the Presbyterians got it right. The folks who originally wrote the "book" for the Methodists need to re-think what it means to be Christ-like. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. That's what I thought. . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-41599010406869091422011-11-17T13:47:46.172-06:002011-11-17T13:47:46.172-06:00The congregation I belonged to for 12 years before...The congregation I belonged to for 12 years before coming to Campbell was an open and affirming church in a different denomination. While my family and I love Campbell, the UMC position and the silence of our congregation on this issue weigh very heavily on me. A straight friend from that other church once told me that he couldn't be part of a church where our gay friend could not be totally open and accepted, and I have always felt that my doing so is a betrayal of my many GBTL friends.<br /><br />Your point about most people being ambivalent toward the church is spot on. For decades churches and denominations have fretted over how to be culturally relevant while, ironically, it has grown more irrelevant to that the culture.Carey Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510785468686832616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-28326615268522316682011-11-17T12:30:42.362-06:002011-11-17T12:30:42.362-06:00These are very polarizing issues Andy. I understan...These are very polarizing issues Andy. I understand why some (on both sides) want to make it black and white but is there not room for gray in the debate? <br /><br />I would hate to see the UMC go through what the Episcopalians went through a few years ago when many more conservative churches left and became Anglican.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.com