tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post5153595851726879026..comments2024-03-21T03:45:48.679-05:00Comments on Enter the Rainbow: Proactive Pastoral CareAndy B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05944614269873479581noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-26894293640364318052007-05-27T19:04:00.000-05:002007-05-27T19:04:00.000-05:00I'm already finding it impossible to do proactive ...I'm already finding it impossible to do proactive pastoral care -- just responsive.<BR/><BR/>I had License to Preach School a couple of weeks ago. Classes were 13 freakin' hours long, each day. It was on a college campus, but we weren't given access to the gym (not that there would have been time, I guess). My daily devotions nose-dived under the time constraints.<BR/><BR/>I don't mind being put under great pressure to work. I do mind being to do all these things and stay rested. It bothers me when the institutional UMC tells us be healthy, and then does things like this.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04854543617806427302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-44225456884970505392007-05-21T09:56:00.000-05:002007-05-21T09:56:00.000-05:00There are a lot of issues here, Andy. Choosing ho...There are a lot of issues here, Andy. Choosing how to use limited number of hours; promoting healthy mental, physical and spiritual lifestyle; offering care before one is ready to hear it or receive it; the breadth of tolerance and acceptance; different abilities and competencies among pastors. My professor of preaching, Dr. Gene Lowry, would say that the sermon is, in many ways, proactive pastoral care. You are sharing with a large number of your flock how you might live and relate to others and make decisions that lead to healthy, joyful, meaningful lives. Every preacher needs to remember that the most effective sermon is how you live among your people. Peace, JBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-89937077947034350052007-05-20T08:56:00.000-05:002007-05-20T08:56:00.000-05:00In many churches pastoral care takes a backseat to...In many churches pastoral care <A HREF="http://eye4redemption.blogspot.com/2006/03/religious-seduction.html" REL="nofollow">takes a backseat</A> to pulpit ministry.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-32600573765337262902007-05-18T12:42:00.000-05:002007-05-18T12:42:00.000-05:00I think that getting together with the guys to pla...I think that getting together with the guys to play some basketball could be considered proactive ministry. Well, if you don't foul too much.Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16281681151691962356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-51759272730590100022007-05-18T11:22:00.000-05:002007-05-18T11:22:00.000-05:00Not addressing your point, I realize, but what's i...Not addressing your point, I realize, but what's it called when you go to visit someone in ICU that did not solicit your visit? Especially when the someone is not a congregation member and is someone you've never met... Is that something other than pastoral care? Does it become the second brand you mentioned if a congregation memeber who is the mother of the patient's friend asked you to go visit?<BR/><BR/>I'm just wanting clarification in case I ever try to officially chronicle those life-changing events in my 2005.EyeRytStufhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05490634373460113381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10217302.post-33246070468371941592007-05-17T21:56:00.000-05:002007-05-17T21:56:00.000-05:00Hey there Luke, away with your (self-degrading) we...Hey there Luke, away with your (self-degrading) weapon. Proactive doesn’t mean you have to spend half a day to hunt someone down, take them by the collar, shake them violently (yet lovingly & pastoral), and interrogate them why the hell they haven’t been to church for 3 weeks – asking if they have a problem you can fix? Flash care – like flash prayer – can occur quickly and easily: a hand on a shoulder (you know not why), a sincere “how’s such-and-such..”, asking for help or delegating something to give you more time for these important things, a post card, a phone call, etc. You knoooow…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com